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Revit MEP Coordination Views

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When you are using either a Mechanical or Electrical view disipline, the view will display those objects darker than the architectural objects or other MEP objects. You can see from this Mechanical 3D view below, the walls are light, and you can see the piping going through it.

If you change the view properties so it is displaying using a coordination disipline instead, the walls will become darker, and the piping will be hidden behind the wall objects. But it will not display the piping with hidden lines.

If you create plan views using Coordination disipline, you can see the pipe that goes through the wall or under a light fixture or another pipe as disappearing.

When in plan mode, and the view set to a mechanical disipline, you can see those pipes passing below other MEP objects as hidden lines, but not shown hidden through the wall objects as shown below.

To do this, you’d probably need to use a basic line tool for this. Perhaps there will be more control provided for this feature in the future. For now the above workaround may help.

Written by sbrisk

April 3, 2008 at 2:56 pm

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Worksharing Monitor for Revit MEP 2008

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If your Revit MEP is on subscription, you can download the new Revit 2008 Worksharing Monitor Extension from your subscription website.

The Worksharing Monitor facilitates the use of Revit software in a worksharing environment, in which multiple people work on one project. For workshared projects, the Worksharing Monitor answers questions like the following:

  • Who is currently working on this project?
  • Is my local copy of the project up to date?
  • When will my Save to Central operation finish?
  • Has my request to borrow elements been granted?
  • Are any issues interfering with my work on a Revit project?

NOTE: The Worksharing Monitor is not useful for standalone Revit projects, which do not use worksharing to divide the work for a project among several people.

To install and run Worksharing Monitor for Revit 2008, you need to have at least one product from the Revit 2008 product family installed on your computer. You must have a 2008 version installed, with SP2 or SP3 (also known as WU or web updates). Available products include:

• Revit® Architecture 2008, SP2 or SP3
• Revit® Structure 2008, SP2 or SP3
• Revit® MEP 2008, SP2 or SP3

Written by sbrisk

January 21, 2008 at 5:20 pm

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Setting up a Revit MEP Project from the Revit Architecture Project

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With any software program, different users use it in different ways. All of the methods and documentation has always been gears towards architects and how they should use the software. But what about the engineers? They use a different workflow than architects. Is the software capable of performing tasks much easier than documented for engineers?

When engineers get the architectural background in a Revit project format, how can you, and how should you create a new MEP project based off of the architectural views for that particular project? Every project is unique, and requires new views to be created. Architects start their projects using a project template, as should engineers. But the same MEP views will need to be created based off of the various Architectural views and levels that the project requires. Why recreate all of that when it’s already in a Revit project?

This blog describes a method where you can have the best of both worlds. You can use the architects project to create the MEP views the project requires rather than creating all of those views a second time yourself as the engineer. Then you can transfer your MEP project standards such as family types, line weights, materials, view templates and object styles into your project.

  1. Open the Architects model. Switch to the Default 3D view and erase all of the elements, switch to a few of the floor plan views to confirm all elements have been deleted.
  2. Use the Purge Unused (FILE->Purge Unused) command to remove all of the Architects “stuff” that is no longer needed.
  3. Use the Transfer Project Standards command to transfer the Family Types, line weights, materials, View Templates, Filters, and object styles and any other settings that you have changed in the template.
  4. Switch to a floor plan view and from the File pulldown and pick Import/Link ->Revit. Browse to the Architects model and link it in. Make sure to use Origin-to-Origin as the Positioning setting.
  5. Select the views that you would like to use for your MEP plans and go to the view properties and modify what view template you want to apply to that view. Or you can use the Apply View Template command from the Right-click menu. This will apply your MEP view template that view.
  6. With the views still selected, Right-click again and select Properties. Change the Discipline catagory to whatever discipline you want that view to apply to, and also set the Sub-Discipline.
  7. You can copy those views and apply other discipline view templates and descipline catagories to them if you are a multi-discipline MEP firm.
  8. Switch to a Floor Plan, and here you can turn off unwanted elements such as furniture. Type VG to start the visibility graphics. You can also control the elements in the Architects Model separately from the elements in your model by going to the Revit Links tab. One example for doing this would be to turn off the Architects plumbing fixtures after placing your Revit MEP fixtures that have connectors on them.
  9. Use the Monitor option from the Copy/Monitor design panel and select the levels to copy from the Architects linked file to your MEP file.
  10. Repeat this step for each of the levels, pick Finish mode when all of the levels have been selected.
  11. Select the button under Display Settings, and choose Custom. Under the Basics tab change the Linked view: to a view in the Architects model that looks the way you want. Then switch to the Model Categories set the Model Categories to Custom and turn off elements you do not want to see.

Now you have the start of your MEP project. You can now begin to lay out your equipment and create your systems. When the architect sends you a new background and you replace the old version with the new version, your project link will update the background. You can then use the Coordination Review tool from the Tools Pulldown menu to see what changes were made. If new levels or views were created, you will need to create new MEP views to display those changes.

In any design software program, that are multiple ways to get similar tasks completed. This is just one way that you can start a project in Revit MEP.

Written by sbrisk

December 26, 2007 at 7:25 pm

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Displaying Revit MEP Systems by Color

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If you look at your Revit MEP model, and you see the confusing winding of piping and duct running through your model, and wonder what system that pipe or duct belongs to? There are ways to show your systems in various colors to make it easier to understand and view your model at a quick glance. You can set up a filter to apply colors by System Type, or by System Name, whatever you want. Check out the Filters applied to the default template in RME 2008 as a guide.


Line Styles by Pipe Type
You need to use View Filters to accomplish this task.

1. Settings -> Filters… Here you define the Filters that will exist in the project.

2. Select a view in the Project Browser that you want to apply these filters on, go to Properties -> Visibility Graphics Overrides… -> Filters tab. Here you will select a filter you defined in step 1 and define visual overrides for elements that are returned by the filter.

3. Go to that view, note that your Filters have been applied and there is a visual difference between your systems.

Keep in mind that Filters can be part of a View Template, so you don’t need to define these for each individual view.

Written by sbrisk

October 10, 2007 at 1:50 pm

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Organise your Revit Views and Sheets into Folders

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Ever have this problem? You develop your scheme within Revit and before you know it you have a list of Views and Sheets as long as your arm.

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Well there is a cure. Using this technique you can create folders to help organize your Views and Sheets.

Organising your Views….

First of all add a Project parameter called “Folder” with the following properties:

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You can find Project Parameters under the Settings menu

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Click Add, to add a new Project parameter

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Pick a name for your new parameter. You will see above that I have chosen Folders. Ensure you choose Text as the Type and Text for Group Parameter Under. Tick Views as the category. You can now OK the Project parameters dialog box.

Now select Browser Organization from the Settings Menu

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Select New and give choose a name for your new Browser Organization. I have called mine My new browser

Ensure the Folders Tab is completed as per the image below

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Make sure there is a tick against the new Browser Organization Profile you have just created; and click OK.

If you now look to the left of your screen, you will see that your new Browser Organization has come into effect.

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For each type of view (ie plans, ceiling plans, etc) your views are all lumped under one folder named ???. This is because you haven’t created and actual parameters for the folders yet, We will do that now.

You can create the folder names you need directly from within the Properties dialogue box for each view.

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You will see in the image above that I have picked a view, brought up its’ Properties Dialog box and created a new folder I wish this view to be placed in by typing Plans as Proposed in the Folders Parameter box.

As soon as I click Apply, a folder called Plans as Proposed is created in the Browser and the view (in this case Detail 4) is listed under it.

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You will see from the image below that I’ve now created a logical system of organising my views. Exactly the same can be done with ceiling plans, elevations, 3D views, etc. Note: You can select multiple views simultaneously and change the Folder Parameter for them in one go- this greatly speeds up the process of organizing your views.

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….and your Sheets

Exactly the same can be done for drawing sheets. To do this you need to do the whole process again but select Drawing Sheets instead of Views, in the Category section of the Parameter Properties dialog box.

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Now you can create a new Browser Organization- in this case I created one called My Sheets. You Group by Sheet Folders (or whatever name you chose for your Project parameter) and you sort by Sheet Number.

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Written by sbrisk

June 25, 2007 at 3:23 pm

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Using same crop region in multiple floor plan views

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You want to have multiple floor plan views that use the same crop region so that all of your levels line up from floor to floor as you go through a set of construction documents.

It is possible for multiple floor plan views to use the same crop region if they are all associated with a common scope box. First, create a scope box in one of the floor plan views, and then associate the other floor plans with that scope box.

To create a scope box in a floor plan view

  1. In a plan view, click Scope Box on the Drafting tab of the Design bar.
  2. On the Options bar, enter a name and specify a height for the scope box, if desired.
  3. Draw a scope box by clicking in the upper-left corner to start the scope box and clicking in the lower-right corner to finish the scope box.

Note: Refer to the Help file for more information about scope boxes.

To associate multiple floor plan views with the same scope box so that the floor plan views have the same crop region

  1. Open the floor plan view that you want to associate with the scope box.
  2. Right-click somewhere in the view. Click View Properties.
  3. In the Element Properties dialog box, select the scope box that you created from drop-down list for the Scope Box parameter.
  4. Repeat steps 1-3 for all the floor plan views that you want to have the same crop region.

Written by sbrisk

June 20, 2007 at 8:31 pm

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"Systems" in Revit

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There are a variety of MEP systems that can be created in the new Revit Systems. I wanted to break each disipline down to all the different systems that are available to be created.

Starting in the Mechanical Duct disipline, you can create supply, return and exhaust systems for your duct and equipment. You can create the system by placing your equipment, and then selecting that equipment and selecting the system you want it to be assigned to in the Options Bar.

In the Mechanical Piping disipline, you can create Hydronic supply, Hydronic return, or Other. You would create these systems in the same manor as the duct systems.

In the Plumbing disipline, you can create Domestic Hot Water Supply, Domestic Cold Water Supply, Sanitary and Other systems.

Finally, in the Electrical disipline, you can create a variety of systems. Power, data, telephone, security, fire alarm, nurse call, controls and communication circuits can be created by selecting the equipment and devices that are placed in your drawing, and assign them to a system.

The thing about Revit Systems, is that you design these systems as if you were installing and connecting the systems in the field.

You cannot create additional systems like you can in the Style Manager in ABS. And there is limited equipment that can be assigned to these systems as of now. For example, there are Fire alarm, data and telephone devices that come with Revit Systems, but no security, nurse call, controls or communication devices yet. You will need to create new Families and assign them to those systems.

Written by sbrisk

December 8, 2006 at 2:47 pm

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